MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mar 4 Nov 2008 - 21:41

Cette année tous en Yam

L'année prochaine tous en Ducat

Dans 2 ans ils reviennent a la Yam Lorenzo y sera pour quelque chose Razz

Sinon ben allez les verts pour Melandri et Hopkins !

alien

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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 13:57

oui oui allez les verts alien

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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 14:22

tout pareil que Beagle ...je suis desenchanté là avec les verts...

j'ai peur aussi de la rechute et de m'enflammer alors je me soigne...
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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 14:24

va voir l essai de la new 6r 09, un ptit coup d neuf fait du bien Wink

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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 17:41

une interview de West à Portimao (désolé j'ai la flemme de traduire)

en résumé après ses piges de 2007 où il finit dans le top 10, il s'attend à une super saison 2008 et là, c'est le drame

Kawa n'a jamais écouté Ant West afin la mi-saison sur les problèmes de la moto, aucune révision sérieuse du prototype si ce n'est revenir aux réglages de 2007 à mi-saison, Hopkins qui devient alcoolique tellement la moto est mauvaise (Misano What a Face

), et tout un team qui sent qu'il n'a pas le support dont il devrait bénéficier de la part d'une usine qui décide de s'investir en MotoGP
Kawa a décidé en fin d'année d'écouter ses pilotes et de construire une nouvelle moto notamment selon les remarques de West tout en lui annonçant qu'il ne roulera pas dessus en 2009, super, vive Kawa

Il revient en SSP où il veut jsute retrouver le plaisir du pilotage, la confiance d'un team et la bataille pour la gagne cheers

The whole MotoGP season was a disappointment. You're a good rider. It's unfortunate the way it worked out.

Yeah, yeah. It was real disappointing, because I expected so much this year out of the bike, and how good it went last year, when I first dropped on, I was top ten. I had some good races. And then - so I expected more this year, and it just never happened. They never - never developed the bike the way I wanted, and they never really listened to me in the beginning, until sort of halfway through the season they actually started to realize I'm not talking shit when I'm telling them what's wrong with the bike. They finally started to listen a little bit, but it's a bit too late. They said they're building a bike for the way I like it, but it's not going to be ready 'til next year, and I'm not riding it, so it's no use to me.

Did they expect Superman performance on the bike? What were they basing it on, the idea that you were doing poorly? I don't understand. Because Hopkins wasn't performing any miracles on it either.

Exactly. I don't know. I guess they need to blame someone, and that's me. They think - they always seemed to think their bike was perfect. Hopefully now they're finally starting to realize it's not, because our results haven't been good, and Hopkins hasn't been so good either, and he was fourth last year, and many times on the podium. Yeah. We both struggled on it, and both had a lot of crashes. It was just a difficult season for both of us.

Were the bike problems just issues with the front end going into the corner, as was reported?

It would change on how the bike was set up, but it's - it's just the balance of the bike is all wrong, and they're never going to fix it with just setting it up, with changing suspension. That was the problem. We kept trying to tell them to change the frame, and change this and that, but they wouldn't listen. Or wouldn't listen to me, because I guess I haven't been in MotoGP long enough for them to listen to me. And then finally at the end of the season, last race, the Japanese actually said, "Oh, yeah, we should've listened to you," because everything I've said's been correct. They finally realized that. It took them all season, but...

It's got to be frustrating when they would finally say that to you after everything you put in, and got thrown down the road a few times trying to make them happy.

Yes. Yes.

Trying to make them happy.

Yeah, it sort of pissed me off. But like - yeah, because they finally come to me and said, "Yeah, we should've listened to you in the beginning, and everything that you've said for the season on data and everything, it's been 100% correct on what's wrong with the bike, and we're building a bike for the way you - for your request next year, but sorry, you're not going to be riding it." So it's just been frustrating, because they haven't done enough keep going forward like all the other manufacturers have. So it's just frustrating for us riding the bike. You lose confidence when you already know they're not doing enough to make it go faster, and we're busting our balls trying to ride it.

From a rider's standpoint, if they're not trying to build any confidence in you ...

Yeah. Like if they're coming with parts every weekend, and if they're not working, at least you know they're trying to do something. But -

But there weren't parts coming every weekend? You got two major revisions during the season, right?

I wouldn't say that, no.

Really?

No. I would say we went back to what we had last year. But it's a long story, and I don't really want to say anything bad about Kawasaki. But the revisions that we had were nothing, really. It was basically back to what we know works. Nothing new on the bike.

John had some issues on and off the track. He was injured, and he had the paddock incident at Misano or wherever it was. How did that affect the team?

For sure it didn't do the team any good. Because I don't know. All the mechanics I work with - because I worked with John's side as well, before I switched to the other side - all the mechanics are great guys, and they all work really hard, and they don't make many mistakes. But you can just sort of feel in the team, everyone's a bit disappointed, because Kawasaki don't - just haven't - I don't know. They feel, as well, that they're not wanting to win as much as the other guys do. Like they're there racing, and they're putting a lot of money into it, but they just feel like they're not developing enough to want to win.

The passion and the desire perhaps isn't there as it is with other teams.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's how the whole team, I think, feels, a little bit, as well. And yeah, it just - it's shit when the whole team feels like that. We're just sort of like, "Yeah, this is what we've got, and this is what we have to work with," and we just try and do the best we can each time, but we know we're not going to be at the front, because nothing's changing. So yeah. For everyone it's difficult, and yeah, with things, with John and that, I don't know. He just didn't seem as happy as what he did when he was with Suzuki, as well. It's just made the year even harder for him, and for me.

But you're back into a good situation for next year. Back in World Supersport now on a Stiggy Honda.

Yeah. Should be competitive. I've ridden here before. It's pretty exciting racing here. It's like 125s in GP and that. I'm just looking for a good year, and just to be happy again, because last - this year was - like a great experience, and I'm happy Kawasaki gave me that opportunity to ride MotoGP, and if I had the chance I would still ride with them again. But I'd definitely do it differently. I'd definitely push them a lot harder. And now that I have the experience and be confident that I know what I'm saying's right. Because I've realized that everything I said to them was right. But I'm just looking forward to having a good year next year. And yeah. To have a bit of fun again racing.
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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 19:05

merci pour ton résumé... vive qui?

j vais presque finir par regretter d avoir tiré sur west!!!
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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 19:08

j'aimerai que se soit au moment ou on les attends pas qu'il nous fasse une saison de dingue

What a Face

je dois encore rever !

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 20:06

ben moi j'espere que kawa fera quelques chose de bien!!! Very Happy

autant j'aime yamaha en moto gp,mais alors je roulerais pas sur yamaha!!

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 20:31

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 21:57

je tiens a verser a votre discution qu'il y du gros changement dans l'air en ce qui concerne la compèt pour kawa en france, kawa france arrête la gestion de la compètition et donne mandat a une structure privé qui elle s'occupera de selectionner les pilotes et les montures, le but etant d'avoir un max de résultat cette établissement s'efforcera de réunir les meilleurs éléments pour mener cette ou plutôt ces équipes aux podiums. Les responsables sont d'anciens pilotes aujourd'hui chef d'entreprise et d'excelent manageur, déja en charge d'une partie de la promotion de la marque. Ayant eu l'occasion de discuter avec le patron je peut garantir du succes quasi certain de cette formule, je tait volontairement les noms mais certains d'entre vous auront compris de qui il s'agit, wait and see

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Mer 5 Nov 2008 - 22:47

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Jeu 6 Nov 2008 - 12:08

sur caradisiac et mj ils parlent de Posson et Gil motorsport pour le mondial d'endurance, ben y sont pas découragés,ce qui est étonnant c'est que la 10r de l'open france et d'endurance a l'air de marcher à coté de celle de Laconi, c'est bien étrange

Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Jeu 6 Nov 2008 - 17:43

entre un 10r de Fsbk/promosport et un 10r d endurance et mondial SBK, ya vraiment des gouffres de performances et de préparation..

RIEN A VOIR, c est donc impossible de connaitre la VRAI raison des contre perf kawa a haut niveau.
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Sujet: Re: MOTOGP: kawa prépare une nouvelle ninja Jeu 6 Nov 2008 - 17:45